January 15, 2018: The Space Between Us hosted by Jovelyn Richards

KPFA Women's Magazine presents a new format that will air every third Monday. Each program of The Space Between Us hosted by Jovelyn Richards will examine the relationships between girls and women all over the world by telling each other's stories. In this way we will attempt to shift and raise consciousness by listening and sharing our journeys.

Today we discuss the space between Black women and white women by answering the question, when did you first realize who you are and how you knew the space between you and others? Judy Grahn, author of A Simple Revolution: The Making of an Activist Poet joins us.

The Space Between Us is a live, call-in show. Today's show was pre-recorded and originally aired in March of 2017.

Click here to listen to entire show. 59:50 min